Venus nodes

Venus will be at the descending node of its orbit on Friday October 25 (at 2 Universal Time, which by  American clocks is 4 or more hours, earlier, in Oct. 24).

Ascending and descending nodes keep happening and may seem among the least exciting pf astronomical events, but they shape the orbits of the moving bodies and set them up for whatever else happens.  And it happens that I’ve been working on a bit for my Venus book about that planet’s plane – its inclination and nodes – and have today fashioned this space diagram.

See the end note about enlarging illustrations.

It shows the orbits of Earth in a year and of speedier Venus over seven months.  The planets, at the beginnings of the months, are exaggerated 300 times in size and the Sun 5 times.

Earth moves in the ecliptic plane; Venus does not.  Its plane is at an inclination of 3.4 degrees to the ecliptic.  Stalks connect it to the ecliptic plane at intervals of 5 days.  Also, Venus’s path is drawn with a thinner line when it is south of the ecliptic.

I chose the year 2020 because, in the 8-year Venus cycle, this is the type of year in which the inferior conjunction with the Sun happens close to descending node.  Inferior conjunction is the moment when Venus passes between us and the Sun.  Descending node is the moment when Venus slopes southward through the ecliptic plane.  Ergo, Venus very nearly passes in front of the Sun literally.

It did so 8 and 16 years previously: the great transits.  The cycle slowly evolves, and this time inferior conjunction comes just too soon – two days – before descending node.  (The red line for the conjunction points slightly above the Sun; the blue line for the node points slightly to the right of the Sun.)  Venus will miss the Sun on the northern side.

But the timing of the node passages determines much else.  Because descending node is now, the next ascending node will be on 2020 Feb. 15.  That will cause Venus’s course next April and  May to be seen by us far enough north that it will cross the Pleiades and then reach its northernmost point in the whole cycle.  And then to seem to rush down rapidly to the descending node in our picture.

So, back to Venus now, or tomorrow evening.

You can see that Venus is on the ecliptic.  And is still almost down on the sunset horizon/  But is inching out into the evening sky, and sharp observers are already monitoring it, or her (I’m having to write a section on that question too).

At the ascending node in February she will be only just past the “First Point of Aries,” which is the ascending node of the ecliptic on the equator.

 

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11 thoughts on “Venus nodes”

  1. Glad you mentioned nodes having much to do with the transits of Venus. For many of us alive now, some were fortunate enough to have been able to see the last two: For me, the first one, from Switzerland with a friend I met in Baja CA for the grand total solar eclipse of 7/11/91 and the second, from Maui, where a friend of mine from college now resides. As to whether Venus should be referred to as a she or it, in these days of transgender controversy, how can we be sure it was a she to begin with? Who’s to say its arms weren’t the only appendages lobbed off in the Venus de Milo?

  2. I didn’t realize that Venus was slightly off the elliptical plane.you learn something every day!

  3. Thanks for acknowledging the question of whether Venus is an overheated ball of rock with a thick sulfurous atmosphere, or the celestial manifestation of the Roman goddess of love and beauty. I’m looking forward to reading that chapter in the new book.

    Somewhere I read about the invariable plane of the solar system, sort of the average ecliptic of all the the solar system bodies orbiting the Sun. More technically, the invariable plane passes through the solar system’s center of mass (the center of the Sun) and is oriented perpendicular to the angular momentum vector of the solar system as a whole. Jupiter’s orbit has the least inclination to the invariable plane, 0.32 degrees — not surprising considering that Jupiter contains 70% of the mass of everything in the solar system that’s not the Sun. The orbits of Venus, Earth, Mars, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune are all inclined within a degree or two to the invariable plane. Trickster Mercury’s inclination is more than 6 degrees; oddball Pluto’s is over 15 degrees; main belt asteroid Pallas is inclined 34 degrees to the invariable plane. Some Kuiper belt and Oort cloud objects have even greater inclinations.

    I don’t know why I needed to look this up and share it just now. I guess I just like the sound of the phrase “the invariable plane of the solar system”.

    1. There is stuff about the invariant plane in my Astronomical Companion, section on Earth’s orbit, and the plane is shown in one of the sphere pictures.

        1. I remembered “invariant plane” and searched for that; the search engine suggested “invariable plane”.

  4. Great explanations, thank you. I also watched the Venus transits; I like the planet Venus and am working on something about objects orbiting it. Please keep us updated on your Venus book!

  5. Pretty cool. My son and I watched the solar transit the last time. Thanks for explaining the mechanics. I love seeing the phases of Venus in the telescope. Helps one grasp the 3D’s in the view…. and be amazed.

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